Mac Budkowski
@macbudkowski
I think the ratio was different because the early Internet wasn't about financial services and making money, so the sums were smaller. But it was annoying!
IIRC @cdixon first startup was about providing safety scores for different websites.
osama
@osama
Would love to bounty on @saymore to have an internet veteran talk about the internet pre-1995-ish times: adoption challenges, societal perception, mainstream media perception, et al
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chrsmaral
@chrsmaral
its like the early internet in the sense that the tech isnt there yet and the potential it caries
all the scams comes from technology being really accessible nowadays
emerging tech, which isnt mainstream ready, gets put infront of a lot of people who shouldn‘t be involved with it because they don‘t understand it
chrsmaral
@chrsmaral
shitty people are and were always everywhere. And scams happen with every tech facilitating communication.
the issue with web3 is that the scammers are public figures andor have a lot of media coverage/reach. Therefore they mud the public perception and reach a broad numb of people.
Corbin Page
@corbin.eth
Not too controversial... 😅
Lots of credit card scams in early internet.
Internet of value has more scam attack vectors than internet of information / ecommerce. Imho this is the most important leap forward we need to go mainstream.
Les Greys
@les
There were definitely a lot of porn checks mailed and users never received the actual porn they subscribed to. Just say’n.
Cameron Armstrong
@cameron
Web3 is like the early internet in the fact that it’s a bunch of nerds who are mostly focused on nerding out harder on it instead of making it more useful and interesting for everyone else
borodutch 👈👈😎👖💨
@farcasteradmin.eth
> you got porn and it wasn’t a scam afaik
yo wtf i didn't know you could do this
borodutch 👈👈😎👖💨
@farcasteradmin.eth
damn, i mean i didn't know you could have bought port with freaking mail cheque
who would even do this
osama
@osama
seems like there were many modes:
- mail cheque, get vhs
- pay with cc online, get vhs mailed
- pay with cheque, watch online (download/buffer)
- pay online, watch online (download/buffer)
Mac Budkowski 🥝
@macbudkowski
Early Internet was full of scams - trojan viruses, redirecting websites that drained your phone bills, stealing credit card numbers, etc.
Mac Budkowski 🥝
@macbudkowski
Who remembers Anna Kournikova?
osama
@osama
The tennis star? Yes, what happened to her?
Mac Budkowski 🥝
@macbudkowski
It was a very popular virus in the early 2000s
osama
@osama
TIL… ty. So I wonder if these illicit problems were less covered by media b/c it was “weird corner of the world, niche culture” kinda thing for a long time?
It feels media posts from that time don’t cover scams very well. They focus on illicit usecases eg porn and drugs more
osama
@osama
Yea but that’s like 2001. Viruses scam were rampant by then. I’m curious more about pre-1992 (Golf War/CNN explosive rise times)
Mac Budkowski 🥝
@macbudkowski
I think the ratio was different because the early Internet wasn't about financial services and making money, so the sums were smaller. But it was annoying!
IIRC @cdixon.eth first startup was about providing safety scores for different websites.
Mac Budkowski 🥝
@macbudkowski
I started using it around 1998 and it was pretty limited because of the high prices and my early age so I can't tell too much 🤷♂️
borodutch 👈👈😎👖💨
@farcasteradmin.eth
"here, mail me a cheque and i'll send you back vhs where i crush tomatoes with my bare feet"
yeah
wild times
osama
@osama
yea same. I used excite.com for the first time late 1998. had very limited access to internet and computers until 2005
Diego Basch
@dbasch
yeah, you can only compare web3 to the early internet for a little while. The internet exploded and became useful incredibly quickly. My mother went from not having a computer to having cable modem in three years. It took the world by storm really fast, in a way that crypto or web3 have not.
Royalaid
@royalaid.eth
Plenty of others have already pointed this out but today's internet is very different from the internet of the 90's. Some problems back then were session state (no cookies), pages always had to refresh, credit card processing was a nightmare, fraud was rampant, chatrooms were scary for parents, no computer security.
Aaron Ferguson
@aaronrferguson.eth
Yes hello police? I’d like to report a fraudulent pornography business that sold me $1000 in VHS tapes that they never delivered.
The names of the tapes? Oh umm…
*whispers softly into rotary phone*
titled Gooey Grannies episodes 3-8
ccarella
@ccarella.eth
Brett Johnson (an OG scammer) on Lex Fridman talks about a lot of early internet scams where people bought stuff and it never arrived or things paid with bad checks.
Ian Place
@ians-place
Biggest ➕1️⃣ ever
JonnyRingo.eth ⚰️
@jonnyringo
Agree on your overall point of imagery to an outsider,
But
If you buy an NFT on a secure contract, you get the picture you paid for. The rest is value market for the product which is really an added feature in this scenario so can't be equated directly.
JonnyRingo.eth ⚰️
@jonnyringo
Of course there is the arguement of Metadata hosting but just applying the concept of buying a literal picture if conditions are as intended.
KMac
@kmacb.eth
Bandwidth was abysmal. Broadband showed up circa 2000. While cableTV was in ~60% of US households there wasn't any social media nor user generated content to help spread content. There were a handful of networks with only so many hours to fill. Less media coverage for sure.
Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
early internet people were against adding the img tag
KMac
@kmacb.eth
In '91 we were using telnet, ftp, and gopher. HTML wasn't invented until '93. IRC and 'Talk' were the shining lights here. Blew my mind to be chatting up a classmate who was sitting on the other side of the lab. When she laugh out loud this internet thing hit home for me.
Cameron Armstrong
@cameron
This was the exact story I was thinking about 😂😂🫡
slobo
@slobo.eth
the future in retro will be framed differently
ie., reddit avatars massive web3 growth that many deep in crypto discount
10 years out that will be the example that is used for current state and everyone will be like “duh”
aerique
@aerique.eth
Paying €10 an hour to play Air Warrior from the Netherlands to the UK through some middle man. That was on top of the phone bill.
Those two things were a scam in itself.
Air Warrior was great though. Can you imagine an online WW2 air combat sim, (massively) multiplayer in the late 80s?!
Adam Dawson
@adamdawson
Ever use Limewire?