BorrowLucid
@borrowlucid
Can we apply your research towards improving QF rounds?
kbc
@kbc
@saymore? What are you thinking about?
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kbc - q/dau
@kbc
⭐ Threadstarter
Four tribes on Farcaster
A couple of leaders
A grey mess --> need better interaction data
@ccarella.eth is topping the leadership chart
artlu.eth (🗝️,👑) - l/dau
@artlu
let's name the 4 tribes! (would be useful to answer, are they semi-static over time)
are any of the tribes heavier Purple NFT holders?
woj — q/dau
@woj.eth
HYPE super happy that you picked it up
can you characterize better the tribes here?
cc: @rafi who deservers much more credit than me here
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
easiest would be for everyone whose part of a tribe to check the google sheet and their cluster and make a name suggestion. The article has a google sheet.
Good point about Purple NFT holders. Would need to add the data. First step is to redo the analysis for casting data (replies, mentions, in what channel)
Cameron Armstrong
@cameron
I’m FID 617 🫡
Can I have a list of my tribe so I can make tshirts
j4ck • icebreaker
@j4ck.eth
sounds like a swagcaster bulk order 😎😎😎
j4ck • icebreaker
@j4ck.eth
i’m in the list! i’m the only (1) lol
what does this mean 👀 i guess that im 🥇😏
Ben
@0xbenersing.eth
I’ll take a Medium. Ty
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
Yes sir, filter the google sheet and you have your tribe. You’ll have to form a DAO, and have a public vote on its name. Then commission the art work
Cameron Armstrong
@cameron
Link to Google sheet w tribes for anyone passing by 🫡
@pixel can you add all the usernames I have to know if you’re in my tribe 👀
TRIBE 4 FOR LYFE 😩
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
I could go deeper into the tribes. What do you mean with characteristics ?
And thanks for adding @rafi. I remember you worked with someone but couldn’t find them. Will update the article tomorrow. Way too late here
j4ck • icebreaker
@j4ck.eth
Tribe 1 UNITE
@pugson @dwr.eth @whit @yitong @vercelabloh @dyor 👀🤌
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
You are the only one from tribe 1 who made it to the top 10. Time to check whose part of your tribe and elevate them to new heights!
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
It’s also based on follower data. I’m sure the results would be different with cast data.
j4ck • icebreaker
@j4ck.eth
does this also mean i should SHUT UP ? 👀
ccarella
@ccarella.eth
Appreciate your work. In the spreadsheet it’s shows my ens associated with fid 3. I believe dwr is fid 3, which would make even more sense as the person with the top score.
Ivy 🌿 q/dau
@ivy
oooh love this!!! bluesky did something similar in the beginning and it was super interesting
Christin
@christin
Can you explain it to me Cameron I don’t know how to read this 😅
artlu.eth (🗝️,👑) - l/dau
@artlu
eyeballing the google sheet, I don't see clear tribes in these 4 categories. but scores will most likely change on redo.
btw, do you have the two very useful spreadsheets shared by dwr pre-permissionless?
- all fid-username-sign_up_date mappings
- first pass of the OG NFT airdrop list, just fids and eth addresses
Cameron Armstrong
@cameron
First column is your FID (I believe yours is 15850), Tribe column is your Tribe
After reading the article I believe the tribes are based off of a group (within a larger cluster of people) consistently interact with each other.
There’s roughly 4 large groups - and tribe 4 is mine 🫡
artlu.eth (🗝️,👑) - l/dau
@artlu
Official list of pre-permissionless FIDs
Farcaster OG edition NFT airdrop list
BorrowLucid
@borrowlucid
When is it meaningful and engaging, when is it taxing and distracting, when is it overwhelming and when is it just right?
Like if there's a large pot with lots of projects across broad parameters vs a small pot for a highly curated community with focused parameters
And then frequency...
Christin
@christin
So we are divorcing bc I am in tribe 2 bye bye
👋
Christin
@christin
Tribe 2 is so hufflepuff 🦡
BorrowLucid
@borrowlucid
If my orgs are decentralized and autonomous, I could use their branding, bc they probably haven't coordinated enough to figure out trademark and I'm a member so...
a bunch of bluebirds, wearing sombreros, weilding battle axes, in castles, around campfires, printed on satin boxers is necessary when I'm tribal status :)
BorrowLucid
@borrowlucid
I want to try something for the Global Governance Gathering during Devconnect. Is there any data I can collect that would be useful for your research?
dawufi (LLM)
@dawufi
this is so fkn cool
tribe 3 gang 4 lyfe
dawufi (LLM)
@dawufi
purple holders here:
Get API button if anyone wants to get the json to match up fnames and ENS (above my paygrade otherwise I'd just do it)
vincent
@pixel
the usernames column seems to be wrong, i'll patch it soon
dawufi (LLM)
@dawufi
addendum: will need to add Socials>Social>userId to get the FID with the data set
vincent
@pixel
I've added the usernames to the right side, go check the GSheets again :)
yesyes
@yesyes
gang gang, other tribes got nothing on us.
yesyes
@yesyes
really cool!
leaf
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Nice
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
Thanks. Will add to my todo
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
Whatever social data (interaction) you can get. That could be
- usernames in farcaster, lens. Twitter ok but their API is 💩
What is the question you like to address?
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
Good point. If they progressively decentralized they could have figured it out
I want those satin boxers :)
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
So ideally yes, but no. The data is based on who is following who. Quickest way to do this.
Next version will be on casting data and hopefully interactive. Might do something special to highlight Purple
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
So: how can we “structure” the QF round in such a way that it’s ideal for the social structure of the voters/proposers (assuming overlap in community) so that voters & proposers feel happy(?) with the end result (?)
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
No forgot about that
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
Thanks for putting in the work
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
Thanks for the heads up. I was surprised to not see @dwr.eth on the top but too tired to go back and check where the error was.
As PoC, the reaction of the community was great. Gonna continue working on it during 100 Builders (hopefully I’m in @joey 😎)
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
What made it interesting?
How did it changed your behaviour on the tool or view of people?
Ivy 🌿 q/dau
@ivy
mapped out all the different social clusters and just like gave an accurate overview of the social makeup so the zeigeist was more legible
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
not yet 🤣 after I’ll do it with casting data, I’ll tell you if you are taking up too much space and should shut the fuck up
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
Thanks. How did it impact engagement or interaction data
Ivy 🌿 q/dau
@ivy
idk maybe it didn't? but it was good for community
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
Thanks. Good for community is a good outcome
Connor McCormick q/dau
@nor
I tried to understand the spreadsheet and it makes no sense
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
Can you say more? I was working late on it. Also not sure how the spreadsheet morphed since I went to bed 😅
Connor McCormick q/dau
@nor
I must be looking at the wrong one:
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
Not on the computer so bare with me.
@pixel fixed the username. Ignore column a & b.
Col C: Tribe (aka cluster) number
Col D: leadership score (betweenness centrality)
Col E: neighbourhood density (clustering coefficient)
Col F: username
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
The original cast alga’s the article explaining the metrics. This was a PoC.
Ppl seem to like the Tribe metric. The other metrics didn’t really get attention.
Would love to hear from creators what their goal is when posting on social media - @cameron maybe you can help with that part
Cameron Armstrong
@cameron
Tribe is flashy, fun, comes with an embedded team, and easy to understand
Leadership and the other one (don’t remember) we’re fuzzier to me tbh
On Farcaster I’m trying to speed up the rate at which I hear good thoughts from good people
Everywhere else I’m trying to get users for seemore.tv 🫡
Sheldon Trotman
@sheldon
This is cool!!
Connor McCormick q/dau
@nor
Seems like density is somewhat anticorrelated with leadership
Connor McCormick q/dau
@nor
Here's my tribe:
lesgreys.eth
jessepollak.eth
df
dcposch.eth
colin
matthew
cassie
j4ck.eth
phil
tim
accountless.eth
ccarella.eth
billzh
pugson
Connor McCormick q/dau
@nor
greg
nonlinear.eth
jayme
js
0xen
nor
july
pushix
mk
linda
vm
ted
ace
n
shawki
zachterrell.eth
jc
giu
briang
perceptive.eth
maxp.eth
pfista
rish
pdr
vgr
hyper
alvesjtiago.eth
farcasteradmin.eth
macbudkowski
momo8
adprm
deeze
moei
madyak
oakarrow
evmbrahmin.eth
0xmasoud
zherring
lawl
paperbuddha
bhgomes
nick.eth
Connor McCormick q/dau
@nor
stockxsleeper
dadcaster.eth
habib
filos
seanwince
oneill
jethid
coldie
idanlevin.eth
snailprincessch
cryptomiyagi
email
gami
dr3a
letsglitchit
mikkolyytinen
yekim.eth
lea-olmos
m12g
amorftrade
robocopsgonemad
boscolo.eth
gregor
elina
slimesunday
caz.eth
fryorcraken.eth
vicki
Connor McCormick q/dau
@nor
dvdsmfer
joobid.eth
coffeebot
enixsta
tylerpixel.eth
mattdesl
msolomon.eth
chops
trent
cooki
lipsum
rachelw
tomleveen
lensprotocol
yondon.eth
prberg
qin
sebas
erich
ajay
limone.eth
serendipity
deficlinpsy
whalesink
kabir14
taytems.eth
stasova
neynar
sisk
zadi
na
abbasmhmdi
0xdariush
bry
Connor McCormick q/dau
@nor
culgin
plum
abieyuwa
disrupted
boss
winstonlaoh
mrwildenfree
bot
gill
jpfraneto
hagop.eth
furyan
lau-christie
bayka.eth
hydrogen
dongambas.eth
benj
nemo
alextes
efdevconnect
dyor
vvelvetbunnyy
tusharsoni.eth
cc0
smf
dubie
colingplatt
dove
polyannie
dhtal
usdt
gkk
shreya47
dliff
0xaryann
thasarito
lain
tacticalminivan
chandresh 🪴 — q/dau
@thechandresh.eth
i am tribe 3 along with @adrienne and @keccers.eth, my life is fulfilled
ccarella
@ccarella.eth
Yeah it really great work. I would love to see more!
BorrowLucid
@borrowlucid
Yes, and it probably varies depending on the community?
BorrowLucid
@borrowlucid
I want to know if it's meaningful, like does it feel like more connection for participants or does it feel like spam.
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
If the global governance gathering feels like connections or QF voting? Hats the relationship between these two?
Sorry for all these questions but lacking context (and sleep)
My first hunch is that you want shorter communication chains, not too long edges (aka connections)
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
How do you recognize good thoughts?
How do you recognize good people?
What if good people casts bad thoughts?
Cameron Armstrong
@cameron
It’s mostly vibes but good thought = teach me something interesting, make me see a new perspective, make me laugh, or make me feel good/inspired
Good people show a demonstrated history of sharing good thoughts + doing good actions
On bad thoughts - give grace until it’s a pattern unless it’s malicious
zoz
@zoz.eth
I’m a leader 🙂
> 1918
Brais.eth (🥝)
@chi
Everybody loves @ccarella.eth
zoz
@zoz.eth
Tribe 4 gang! Where to next leader?
youyou
@
LFG
Rafael Gutkowski
@rafi
I just went read the article and got an unpleasant feeling of being unattributed 🥲
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
Changing it right now
kbc - q/dau
@kbc
done. Drink is on me when we meet
Rafael Gutkowski
@rafi
Noted ^^
Connor McCormick q/dau
@nor
idk tbh